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(1985 TV Movie)

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7/10
Sanitized view of living on the streets of the wealthiest city in the world is still pretty revealing.
mark.waltz9 November 2015
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I am not ashamed to admit that I once had to face life on the streets of both Los Angeles and New York City as I went through some difficult times after the market went belly-up and found true human degradation in the shelter system that I truly could not comprehend. Unless you have lived through on experience like this, you can't really understand the inhumanity that the shelter workers and street thug's inflict on the homeless. People who end up in careers as social workers find that it's much more than they can handle and often, their caring turns into antipathy. Of course, the true issue is that they are trained to be almost robotic in their patronizing treatment of the people who must turn to the government for help, and often, they stand by and do nothing or provide a deaf ear when somebody truly needs somebody to listen to.

This is a well intended social documents of what an elderly woman goes through living on the street and how she deals with a young lady whom she incorrectly assumes to be homeless. The legendary Lucille Ball loses all her glamour as she takes on the big street, this being a far cry from her well remembered drama classic of that name where she played a selfish show girl. Her character of Florabelle is obviously missing a few buttons of sanity, having lost her home some years before and now living out her last days in the streets. Meeting social worker Daphne Zuniga, she takes her under her wing, unaware of what Zuniga really does. Spending a night out on the street takes its toll on Zuniga but Ball risks everything in order to protect her. When all is revealed, she is furious and ends up in a shelter where the mostly white staff are strict but kind. Only a few shelter staff members whom I encountered were remotely sympathetic, and perhaps my own intelligence and strength helped me get out faster than most.

I am not denying the importance of the shelter system, but a closer to the truth view of the New York shelter system and the pathetic HRA was 1993's The Saint of Fort Washington. This is still pretty gritty and street-smart, it's just a bit gussied up and bigger hearted. I give Lucy credit for taking on such a daring part and suffering immensely in her excessive clothing in the summer shooting. Such homeless devices of efforts to survive such as can recycling and garbage can/dumpster diving are realistically presented. I just want anybody who views this to realize that as intense as this is, the reality is far more serious. Fortunately for me, my determination to change my situation lead to a quick exit out of this temporary hell, while unfortunately, elderly people like Lucy's character aren't always as lucky.
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8/10
How could it have taken me 35 years to watch this intelligent, insightful gem?
zacdawac15 December 2021
I spent considerable time exploring and writing about the neighborhood and the world of this story, in the eighties and early nineties. I'm still not quite sure why it took me until 2021 to watch this rather passionate, thought provoking, socially significant and insightful film. And I can't imagine why it wasn't embraced by the public and the reviewers alike. It took seeing Being the Ricardos and listening to the ten part TCM Lucy podcast to inspire me to finally track this one down.

Of course, it's harder to do great comedy, especially in front of a live audience, than it is to do serious acting, with short takes that are shot from nine different angles. Still, Lucy truly showed her acting chops, in what was to be her last film role. She'd played a serious, dramatic and memorable character opposite Henry Fonda, in The Big Street, forty plus years earlier. That's a film people remember and that pops up on classic film stations, on occasion. This one seems to have all but faded to oblivion. If Ben Mankowitz hadn't talked about this film in the last chapter of the TCM Lucy podcast, it might have been another thirty five years before I got around to it.

I give it 8 stars rather than 10 because there are a few cliches. However, cliches do tend to come from reality and I do know, from studying and exploring the subject matter that the film captured that reality.

As I said in my review of the spectacular Being the Ricardos, you will see sides of Lucy in that film that you haven't seen before. After fifty five years in Hollywood, much of which was spent playing a zany wacky character, for Lucy to transform into this street bag lady, with such truly authentic credibility, shows even more range for this truly brilliant legend. Anyone who wants to experience the full gamut of Lucille Ball needs to watch this one.
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6/10
I love lucy
aratron-003916 October 2021
Ms. Ball was great in this made for t.v. Movie that does a good job showing homelessness in n.y.c. The film is often corny but held my interest.
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9/10
Lucy is impressive as a homeless woman living on the street.
NJtoTX30 December 1998
It's hard to imagine Lucy as anything but a comedienne. But at the age of 74, she took on a serious role of a homeless woman trying to survive on the streets and played it authentically.

There's no glamour or comedy here. Any doubts about Lucy's acting ability are quickly dispelled.
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10/10
Would LOVE to find this movie on VHS or DVD
magic_music11 November 2003
I only saw this movie once,when it first was broadcast. I would absolutely love to own a video of this movie,it is such a departure of what you expect of Lucille Ball. I cried when I saw this movie and waited forever to see it again.
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GREAT MOVIE, SOME BAD CASTING!
cubria9 January 2001
Lucille Ball was 74 when she made this movie. Not only was it shot on location in New York but it was summer time and unusually HOT. The rumors are that Lucy fainted a number of times during the filming because of the heat.

Now putting those things aside, I felt this was one of Lucy's greatest performances but as per usual many "critics", not all, had negative things to say about her performance. I have often said too many people expected to see "Lucy Ricardo" in anything that Lucy did, and frankly that wasn't fair to her but, who says Hollywood is fair!

The casting of Daphne Zuniga was a mistake. I never felt the connection between the characters was good. In truth Lucy carried this entire movie as far as I am concerned, unfortunately some areas of the movie suffer because of it.

With that said, I highly recommend this movie! Lucy is wonderful in it and it is worth a Sunday night.

Now the question is can you find the movie?
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6/10
Depressing
iwalrus2 August 2021
A very bleak and depressing movie about a homeless women who gets moved on wherever she roams.

An obvious made-for-TV production but displays the seldom seen dramatic acting from Lucille Ball.

Lucy carries the majority of the movie but most of the other actors are only so-so.

Quite a slow start but starts to get more interesting half way through.

Had this review been done straight after watching, I probably would have given it a 4 but after a few days when the movie's intended impression of sadness and hopelessness sank in, the score was upped to 6.

Although the ending was a happy release, a more tragic ending may have driven home the whole point of the movie.
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9/10
Great Drama by Lucille Ball
NYQueen8216 March 2003
I think our Lucy gave one of her best in this film. She is always one who was never afraid to look ugly (on film, anyway). She is just great and I am so sorry that the rest of the cast is under par and never really matches her power as a performer. I was able to view it at the Museum of Television and Radio and I highly recommend it for any one who is a fan of the first lady of television.
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10/10
In my opinion, some of the best acting that Lucy has ever done.
Nirry17 February 2001
If you watch the "I Love Lucy" episodes and think she was funny, she is just as serious an actress as she was a comic. This is one of the most heart-touching movies I have ever seen and one of the few that has made me cry, that's saying more than I care to admit but it's true. If you ever get a chance to see this film please, don't pass up the opportunity!!
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10/10
Sad movie with happy ending
KDCarson5 February 2017
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***Spoilers***I believe when this movie was being made, Mrs. Ball could not let it have a sad ending. Florabelle finally finds a home after years of wandering with the help of a social worker who puts forth some effort to help her. The movie does do a good job of showing the plight of homeless people and the lack of caring shown by regular people who see them but do nothing to help. Your heart does go out to Florabelle. Many times in the movie reference is made to a missing son who is never found in the time frame of the movie. Also a husband who left and is never located. Florabelle has a good heart but many bad things happen to her. Finally near the end of the movie the social worker is able to help her find a home and start getting social security checks again. So there is some happy ending but not total. This movie has always been on my mind a lot, I live alone myself and worry about my situation and becoming homeless. Sad that such a condition has to exist in such a wealthy country. I also, have some relatives who don't seem to care much what happens to me. So I can identify with her character. We all need to help the guy on the curb. He is your father, brother, son or uncle when you think about it.
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5/10
Lucille works admirably hard, but results are still pretty sticky...
moonspinner558 March 2009
Post-graduate do-gooder, wanting to help the homeless without having any knowledge of how they survive, befriends a very popular bag-lady. TV-movie with more gloss and Hollywood-ized uplift than actual grit. Still, it's a chance to see Lucille Ball in one of her last acting roles, and Lucy commands attention even if there isn't an actual character here for her to portray (her Florabelle is so florid, she's tough to take seriously). Ball would seem to be miscast but, just as with her musical debacle "Mame", she overcomes the obviousness of the scenario and the conception of her role in it; however, also as with "Mame", she is unable to break through the plastic coating and deliver a triumph. The finale, with Florabelle getting her garden, is memorable, and the movie is interesting if not terribly successful.
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Very Impressive, in more ways then one.
jesuswithglasses15 January 2004
Finding this listing here was very impressive in that it seems to be a hard movie to find anything about although it was unfortunately not available when I found the listing.

As Glen says, if you have any doubts at all about Lucille's true acting talent, watch this movie. A very serious rendition of living on the streets in any big city, Lucille actually put herself out on the street to live like that for a week before making the movie. If anyone reads this and knows a reliable place to get this movie please e-mail me and let me know!!
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10/10
It's a beautiful movie with a great actress, it's a shame we can't find it in video to purchase
chuli19826 December 2001
Please hurry and make it available for all who want to purchase this video, I have been looking for it for years.My husband has all Lucille Ball movies and it would be a great holiday present. Also this film represents a big part in our comunity, and I would like to put it to be seen at my ffice( I work at a physicians office where many homeless people are seen daily).
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9/10
great movie...wonderful entertainment from Lucille Ball
superstar3654200415 July 2005
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This movie proves that even though Lucille Ball was 74 years old, she can still put on a great performance. Lucille Ball is great as Florabelle, an elderly bag lady trying to survive on the streets of New York City. Daphne Zaniga is excellent as Carrie Lang, the young social worker that works hard to get Florabelle off the streets.

This movie is very touching. Lucille Ball is great as her performance with Florabelle.

I would definitely recommend this movie to anyone. It is worth the money in the end.

I give this movie a 9/10
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3/10
The End Of The Road
Bolesroor30 October 2014
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You have to feel bad for the Hollywood actress: they start out as the love interest, graduate to playing mothers & wives and then- after that certain age- are relegated to playing only lunatics and monsters. Ask Bette Davis & Joan Crawford.

Okay, so Lucille Ball may not be playing a monster here, but she's definitely in the neighborhood. She stars as Florabelle, a tough-as-nails homeless woman roaming the streets of New York with her shopping cart. Daphne Zuniga shows up in the movie & gives one of the most blank, hollow, and forgetful performances in the history of film. The writing doesn't help: why does Daphne pretend to be homeless in order to befriend Flora? Um, I forget. And the end credits are still running.

The question of the day, of course, is how was Lucy's performance? Well, it was good but not great. She's believable but has nothing to work with in terms of story or other characters. The movie is full of schmaltz and heavy-handed social messages. The direction & writing is amateurish & silly: characters wear glasses only so they can pull them off to make a dramatic point, and most people are so humorless & sanctimonious about homeless people being "the same as you and me," that you'll roll your eyes at least a couple times.

The movie ends on a particularly-syrupy sequence: Flora, rescued from the streets, takes her first steps in the garden of her new home, arms wide, face beaming, overjoyed, enraptured: making mimes blush. She falls to her knees and scoops a handful of soil from the ground- HER soil!- putting it up to her face and sniffing it. Daphne Zuniga watches her in the cutaway, smiling but showing no genuine emotion. We cut back to Flora & mercifully freeze-frame & fade to black before she starts eating the dirt. Yuzz.

Am I being harsh on this movie? Yes. It was intended as an evening's entertainment and a vehicle for the great Lucille Ball. But as I was watching Lucy play gritty and real I realized: I don't want her gritty & real... I like her better when she's making me laugh. I won't remember Lucy unattractive and old as a homeless woman... I will remember her young and pretty and hilarious from her TV days. You can afford to miss "Stone Pillow."

GRADE: D
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DVD Out
jsosa-116 November 2006
This movie has been out on DVD for about a year now. You can find it most definitely at many online DVD sites. Don't expect to find it at a DVD store--if you do you'll probably pay more than you should.

Much like many have always said already, this movie is a strong vehicle for Lucy's dramatic acting. Some critics at the time ignored the film saying that they couldn't see lovable wacky Lucy as a bag lady. Their loss. The movie is touching and heartbreaking.

It's a typical made-for-TV movie which has not aged well. The acting (literally everyone except Lucy) is hard to swallow. Casting was weak. This is Lucy's show and she delivers.
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What a performance!!
hyjrrh30 April 2003
I love this movie!! Lucy put her all in it, even sacrificing her health, and brought up a problem she correctly felt our society needs to address, more. I sure would like to see it on tv, again, and be able to find it on VHS! This is a 'must-see' movie for all, so PLEASE help get it aired!
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Why have they locked it away in some dusty film vault?
robjo7911 February 2004
The one and only time I saw this film on UK television was in 1989 when it was (suddenly) shown as a tribute to Lucille Ball following her death. Most men are not supposed to get emotional, but I am not Most men! This film must be released on video and/or DVD without further delay. Superb in every way!
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ARE YOU CRAZY?!
nana18_310 April 2003
WHAT?! ARE YOU CRAZY?! How can you say the casting of Daphne Zuniga was a mistake?!Her role of Carrie Lang who learned all about the real life in the streets is so lovely and sometimes so funny that really gets to my heart! I love the job of Daphne Zuniga in this movie. I found her interesting in the movie "THE SURE THING" but when I saw "STONE PILLOW" I became her fan.
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