The show us fortunate to have a comic with the talent of Patrick McKenna on this episode. He is very underated. Season 7 has several very silly shows. This episode is not; simply due to McKenna's presence. It is funny when it's supposed to be (for a change). Enjoy!
11 Reviews
The Other Guys, part II
owlaurence22 June 2010
Warning: Spoilers
If you take the episode and just forget about the first 10 and last 5 minutes of it, it is fairly decent. But the farcical bits about Felger's fantasies and overall incompetence do begin to feel like a huge timeout for our usual characters, especially as once again only Carter really spends any time on screen.
Now I am not an IT expert, so as far as I am concerned, the main plot -involving Felger unwittingly messing up a universe's worth of DHDs-, sounds plausible and provides some moments of tension as various teams get stranded off-world in difficult situations. I sympathise a bit with poor Felger, whose efforts seem doomed to make things worse, but the fact remains that he's only ever shown as a buffoon, so it's hard to really consider him as a full-blown character even though this is his 2nd (and last) appearance. I still smiled at some of his antics, and even more when the episode took the opportunity to give a huge nod to Stargate diehards; but this could not compensate the major flaws in the storyline, the worst of which is: WHEN DO WE GET SG-1 BACK ON TRACK???
Now I am not an IT expert, so as far as I am concerned, the main plot -involving Felger unwittingly messing up a universe's worth of DHDs-, sounds plausible and provides some moments of tension as various teams get stranded off-world in difficult situations. I sympathise a bit with poor Felger, whose efforts seem doomed to make things worse, but the fact remains that he's only ever shown as a buffoon, so it's hard to really consider him as a full-blown character even though this is his 2nd (and last) appearance. I still smiled at some of his antics, and even more when the episode took the opportunity to give a huge nod to Stargate diehards; but this could not compensate the major flaws in the storyline, the worst of which is: WHEN DO WE GET SG-1 BACK ON TRACK???
One less Other Guy...
StonescapeLamps2226 May 2018
Avenger 2.0 isn't near as funny or good as The Other Guys episode but it does have some good stuff in it. Patrick McKenna is a great actor from his subtle mannerisms to his over the top shtick. This episode is worth a watch but if you haven't seen the Other Guys check it out...I have watched it multiple times :)
Welcome back doctor
Calicodreamin23 March 2022
bad timing and not as funny as supposed to be
Doc_Rancher11 March 2015
Warning: Spoilers
It's nice to have a comedic episode from time to time and "The Other Guys", the prequel to this one was really great. But a comedic episode should be placed between some serious ones and not after another (truly enjoyable) episode with more fun than plot development. The other problem with this episode is bad writing and the overplayed incompetence of Dr. Felger. Some scenes are really funny but don't mix well with too many serious threats. It would have been far better with for example O'Neill stranded on a planet full of scientists and diplomats ("Carter! Get me out of here or I'll shoot 'em all!"). Another annoyance is the deus ex machina to solve the problem. Out of thin air and without any explanation ("We were tired of waiting") O'Neill saves Carter and Felger with a spaceship. Unnecessary bad writing. Felger could have just finished the anti virus when most of the Jaffa could have come from behind and standing in front of the Stargate. "Surrender" - "One moment please." - Wooosh!
And it somehow lessens "The Other Guys" since I alway thought this was just a daydream of Dr. Felger.
4 out of 10 since it is not all bad and would have been better between some serious episodes.
And it somehow lessens "The Other Guys" since I alway thought this was just a daydream of Dr. Felger.
4 out of 10 since it is not all bad and would have been better between some serious episodes.
doesn't age well
ivko17 March 2021
This is the second go around for an episode focused on the hapless Jay Felger, a researcher at the Stargate program. The first episode with the character, 'The Other Guys', was a decent comedic relief episode about two of the scientists always doing stuff in the background on the show. Jay is a socially awkward nerd who idolizes the SG1 team and daydreams about being the hero in one of their adventures. After some unexpected events, Jay makes a couple of rash decisions that put him and his coworker in harms way but also allow them to face their fears and become heroes for real. It was a little one note, but had enough humor and heart to be fun. Unfortunately, the shows attempt to revisit the concept falls short in a lot of ways.
First, they ditch the coworker and introduce an attractive lab assistant who constantly throws Jay signals that he ignores because he's focused on an infatuation with Carter. I hate this. It's totally cliched, even 20 years ago. Also, the lab assistant who's in love with Jay is completely age inappropriate; she's nearly two decades younger than him. She also works as his subordinate, which even before Me Too wouldn't have been ok with their HR department. And, although I know this probably wouldn't have been something people thought about back when this aired, but the assistant has very little to do other than support her man and be there as a prize when he returns victorious at the end, which just isn't a great message. Watching old shows you have to remind yourself that social norms were different back then, but even so it's hard not to notice how dated these concepts feel today.
Second, the plot revolves around how Jay is actually a smart, nice guy who just lacks belief in himself. To drive the idea that people won't respect you if you don't respect yourself home they have just about everybody react to Jay as though he was something unpleasant they stepped in. But since he is both a highly educated professional at the top of his field and a guy who won a presidential medal of freedom for putting his life on the line to save an SG team, it makes the Stargate program seem like the most hostile place to work in the world. Also, the bumbling, stuttering act gets old pretty quick and should probably have been toned down; a little lack of confidence can be endearing, but an over the top performance pushes the character towards pathetic instead.
Finally, the idea driving the plot, a virus for the Stargate devices, is a little hard to swallow. If you accept the premise then there is essentially no security on the gates; anyone can write their own changes and push them to every device in the galaxy in hours. This seems like an absolutely glaring security problem. There are thousands of these gates, many on worlds with advanced cultures who would prefer not to have backdoors to their planets. And the gates have been around for millions of years. Nobody, not one alien civilization, has had the idea of messing with the logic controlling the gates in all that time? It's a little hard to swallow is all.
So those are my complaints about the episode. I think a lot of the concepts just didn't age very well and overall the premise doesn't entertain as much as the first time around.
First, they ditch the coworker and introduce an attractive lab assistant who constantly throws Jay signals that he ignores because he's focused on an infatuation with Carter. I hate this. It's totally cliched, even 20 years ago. Also, the lab assistant who's in love with Jay is completely age inappropriate; she's nearly two decades younger than him. She also works as his subordinate, which even before Me Too wouldn't have been ok with their HR department. And, although I know this probably wouldn't have been something people thought about back when this aired, but the assistant has very little to do other than support her man and be there as a prize when he returns victorious at the end, which just isn't a great message. Watching old shows you have to remind yourself that social norms were different back then, but even so it's hard not to notice how dated these concepts feel today.
Second, the plot revolves around how Jay is actually a smart, nice guy who just lacks belief in himself. To drive the idea that people won't respect you if you don't respect yourself home they have just about everybody react to Jay as though he was something unpleasant they stepped in. But since he is both a highly educated professional at the top of his field and a guy who won a presidential medal of freedom for putting his life on the line to save an SG team, it makes the Stargate program seem like the most hostile place to work in the world. Also, the bumbling, stuttering act gets old pretty quick and should probably have been toned down; a little lack of confidence can be endearing, but an over the top performance pushes the character towards pathetic instead.
Finally, the idea driving the plot, a virus for the Stargate devices, is a little hard to swallow. If you accept the premise then there is essentially no security on the gates; anyone can write their own changes and push them to every device in the galaxy in hours. This seems like an absolutely glaring security problem. There are thousands of these gates, many on worlds with advanced cultures who would prefer not to have backdoors to their planets. And the gates have been around for millions of years. Nobody, not one alien civilization, has had the idea of messing with the logic controlling the gates in all that time? It's a little hard to swallow is all.
So those are my complaints about the episode. I think a lot of the concepts just didn't age very well and overall the premise doesn't entertain as much as the first time around.
Annoying and Silly Character
claudio_carvalho9 January 2018
After another failure in his invention, Dr. Felger lies and tells that he is working in the virus Avenger to trap the Goa´ulds in a mining planet avoiding them to dial the gate address from the distant planet. But when he releases the virus. All the Stargates present problems and most of the SG teams are not able to return to the SGC. What will Dr. Felger and Samantha do?
"Avenger 2.0" is another terrible episode of "Stargate SG-1" with the participation of the annoying and silly Dr. Felger. Why the writers insist in this unfunny character does not seem to have an explanation. My vote is five.
Title (Brazil): "Avenger 2.0"
"Avenger 2.0" is another terrible episode of "Stargate SG-1" with the participation of the annoying and silly Dr. Felger. Why the writers insist in this unfunny character does not seem to have an explanation. My vote is five.
Title (Brazil): "Avenger 2.0"
Why? Why does sci fi insist on these characters?
herbie-1719 July 2020
I don't understand why sci fi shows insist on bumbling annoying low comedy characters. Felger ranks up there with Jar Jar Binks in annoyance factor. Trust that your audience is smart ..parody is good..the humor inherent in the SG 1 team is funny. This makes me rank this episode very low.
More Time Wasting - Skip It
fcabanski14 September 2015
Warning: Spoilers
The first episode involving Felger, "The Other Guys", was decent. This one wasn't.
The difference is this one had too much Felger, too much bad comedy, with not enough regular SG-1 stuff. That it follows other throw away episodes makes it even worse.
Thank goodness Rodney, not Felger, became a regular on Atlantis.
I was rooting for the Jaffa to shoot Felger. Surely Major Carter could have finished fixing the gates.
I would sooner be infested with a Goa'uld, who kills my family while I watch in horror from within my mind, then have to sit through this kind of tripe.
The difference is this one had too much Felger, too much bad comedy, with not enough regular SG-1 stuff. That it follows other throw away episodes makes it even worse.
Thank goodness Rodney, not Felger, became a regular on Atlantis.
I was rooting for the Jaffa to shoot Felger. Surely Major Carter could have finished fixing the gates.
I would sooner be infested with a Goa'uld, who kills my family while I watch in horror from within my mind, then have to sit through this kind of tripe.
worst episode ever!
VeggieBurger17 July 2021
I've watched SG1 from the first and enjoyed most episodes - in fact I am addicted to the series...... but this one was just beyond awfuI.. I know it is supposed to be a comedy but it just missed the mark.. it was grating.. annoying.. no refIection on the actor who pIayed the bumbIing goofy scientist..its how it was written
P. S the premise was in fact a good one! Wish they had treated it differentIy..
P. S the premise was in fact a good one! Wish they had treated it differentIy..
Dumbest Episode Ever
puudsgpaw19 February 2021
Easily the dumbest episode ever. Felger is not funny he is super aggravating. Like O'Neill, I think he ought to be shot. If I were in a lifeboat with 5 other people and we only had supplies for 5 people, Felger would be the one who I would vote to go over the side. Also, the very idea of writing code for a system originally designed, built and programmed by the Ancients is ludicrous. It makes no more sense than the ending of ID4. Only some hollywierd wonk would think such a thing made sense.
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