Something from Nothing: The Art of Rap (2012) User Reviews

A solid documentary

[teddunsten · 7/10 · 12 February 2012]

This was a pretty good documentary, lots of nice insights and interviews...

I checked it out because I have that book which is similar, "How to Rap: The Art and Science of the Hip-Hop MC" which came out a few years ago and they interviewed many of the same rappers for that. In my opinion, that book goes into a lot more detail than this documentary, because it's wall-to-wall quotes and a lot more subjects are covered, but it was cool seeing a documentary that touched on some of the same topics.

Where it lacks actual extended discussion on writing rhymes, this doc makes up for it with quite a few interesting moments on screen -- most of the rappers kick a verse or two and they often go on tangents and happen upon some interesting topics even if they aren't really about the "craft" of rap, as the title suggests.

Well worth watching if you're a hip-hop fan, and a nice companion to the "How To Rap" book.

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[EmmaDinkins · 8/10 · 15 June 2012]

The Art of Rap is a documentary of the evolution of Hip Hop and the artists who were instrumental in creating an urban musical revolution. This film did exactly what a documentary should do, it provided a record of the pioneers of this art form through an up close and what felt like a personal conversation with these artists. Ice-T traverses the Big Apple as he talks candidly with East Coast artists like Rakim, Chuck D, Q-Tip and my personal favorite Doug E Fresh, who by the way is still phenomenal with the art form of Beat Box. Yes, I heard it here from the man himself that he is the originator of Beat Box, which he defines as an accompaniment to the Master of Ceremony. This film was educational in that I learned if you are not an MC you are just a rapper. Rappers come and go, MCs endure because they are lyricists. Apparently, Mos Def is no longer Mos Def, which sounds so much cooler than Yasiin. When Xzibit was being interviewed I had to recover my thoughts of him being an MC, I couldn't shake Pimp My Ride, but that just made me think of how far he and others like Ice Cube, Snoop Dogg and Ice T have come in the entertainment industry. I found it to be profound when Ice T spoke to Eminem after Red Man had given him his props to say that one of the greatest of all times is a white cat. It is true Eminem is one of the best. I was a bit disappointed in the fact that only one female MC was featured in the East, Salt and only one in the West, MC Lyte. I thought that Eve could have been counted, but maybe she's considered part of the new school. Salt and MC Lyte were both poised and articulate, did a bit of a freestyle as did the Guys but did not delve into the standard language of the Hip Hop culture that being the colloquialisms and the profanity. The film is not yet rated, but every conversation included: fork, beach, sheet, 4Q and knicker (figure it out). When it does get a rating it will be at minimum an 'R', just for the language alone. This film is not for the prudish or young children, but anyone who grew up listening to these artists will love the on screen journey. It's not for everybody but I liked it and am giving it a green light.

Not quite 99 problems, but...

[mrmetox · 6/10 · 4 January 2013]

Biz Markie, Talib Kweli, Meth, RZA, GZA, Ghost, MOP, Busta, Lauren Hill, Slick Rick, Outkast, EPMD, Everlast, LL, Jay Electronica, Lupe, Jay-Z, Eric B, Beastie Boys, Flav, Ren, Too Short, Boo Yaa Tribe, De La, Jungle Brothers, Das EFX, DMX, King Sun, King Tee, The Roots. These are just some of the names that don't feature in this wasted opportunity.

I love Ice T but he's missed a trick here in my opinion, really not taking in some people who for me would be glaringly obvious to speak to about the origins and art of Hip Hop and how it has grown and shaped the genre.

In addition it's almost criminal for me that he spoke to people like Rakim, Ice Cube, Chuck D etc for literally seconds, while indulging others who are arguably less deserving for ages while they freestyle, pontificate in stupid faux-philosophical mode and reel off almost entire songs from their back catalogues. Not disrespecting Kanye but did he warrant a full song, when time might have been better spent talking to Erick Sermon, Black Thought, Mike D, or Big Boi, for example?

Also, not too many (if any) mentions of the impact made by Guru, MCA, B.I.G, JMJ, etc.

The interviews were also pretty lame and cosmetic, and had little in the way of structure. Many simply pandered to ego, rather than unearthing some fascinating insight. Surely more time with Chuck D & Rakim would have produced this. Or delving deeper into the inception of NWA with Cube, rather than listening to Snoop offer cringe worthy nonsense dressed up as prophetic advice. Was really looking forward to this but ultimately felt a bit let down. I guess there would always be someone left out that would cheese people off, but this should have been much better.

Needs the viewer to be there already

[bob the moo · 29 September 2012]

I was quite looking forward to this film, having been away when it made its very brief appearance into UK cinemas. The film presents itself as a documentary on rap music in light of how massive it has become as a genre and, as a fan of some aspects of hip-hop, it was something that interested me. In reality it isn't actually a documentary so much as it is a very loose celebration of the genre and those involved in it from the start. Ice-T presents, directs and various other roles and the whole film is him chatting with fellow artists about their first introduction to the music, their thoughts on it, favourite lines and so on. There appears to be no real structure other than what has been put in afterwards and as a result the value of the film is limited.

If you are looking to learn about hip-hop as a genre of music and how it grew and developed then this is not the film to come to. Conversely, if you are already a fan of the music and know your history then this film will offer the same to you as it appears to have offered to Ice-T – a chance to shoot the breeze with lots of artists all talking with passion about the music they love. This is where the film works best and it is not a good thing that it does so. Even fans of the music will struggle with some of the ways time is spent here because it feels padded at times and also some of the artists don't really have a great deal to say. The interviews are quite weak in terms of their direction and I did get the feeling that they had not been particularly well prepared for and that the film was relying on the subjects to just be good. Luckily some of them really are but of course this trust also means that at times the contributions aren't worth a great deal other than the name of the person involved.

As much as I love him, Q-Tip was one such example; it was great to have so many names involved but it would have been better to have had fewer and make more use of them. The credit for the many, many artists involved rests with Ice-T but unfortunately as presenter he is unable to draw the best from his subjects. Indeed he often seems too fond of himself and there are multiple slow-motion walking shots of him along with far too many obvious helicopter cityscapes. He is not bad per se, but at times he gets in the way of his own film and some of this selection of material seems to speak to his ego rather than the content of the film.

There is plenty here for older fans of the genre though, but this is different from it being a good film, because it really isn't that good. As a documentary it offers little and it really does need the viewer to already be in the right place to watch it. As a fan of the music and the culture, I liked it, but I would be lying if I said it were a good film in and of itself.

Check it out

[clarence-jones07 · 7/10 · 22 June 2012]

It's funny, when I saw this, I too immediately thought, "hey, that's like that How To Rap book!" so it's nice to see another reviewer thought the same thing as me.

I agree with that reviewer that the book is more thorough and complete when looking at the craft, so that remains the go-to resource, but this movie is great for other things.

The verses that the rappers recite are mostly great (though I prefer when rappers do freestyles over beats, not a big fan of the "here's... my... really... slow... acapella... rap... so you... can hear... all the... words"), and it's cool seeing Ice-T just have relaxed conversations with rappers he knows.

It's actually best when it veers away from the craft and just goes into funny stories and interactions between Ice-T and the person he's talking to.

If you're a rap fan, definitely go look this movie up, you'll find something to like in it!

The ultimate Rap doc

[jh-232 · 10/10 · 18 April 2012]

I saw this at a screening with about 600 people and the crowd went mental. The crowd was really mixed which goes to show you rap is not just for black kids anymore. The fact that Ice is friends with everyone makes a big difference as you can tell that the artist are being 100% real. The overall production value is top notch and the music is mind blowing. If you have never seen free styling seeing KRS and Eminem do it will blow your mind. Another thing that was cool was Kanye's interview, I know there is a lot of negativity about him but in this movie he comes off super humble and sincere. This is a doc that is best seen in a theater as the crowd makes it really fun and seeing these guys HUGE on a screen is fantastic.

That's a Rap!

[dharmendrasingh · 6/10 · 14 August 2012]

Hip-Hop heavyweight Tracy Marrow, better known as Ice-T, travels from the East to the West coast to interview dozens of rap's finest to provide a 360° perspective on the art of rap, and establish why this subversive underground movement has quickly become the most lucrative musical genre in the world.

Many can rhyme words; few can do it with panache. To prove this, we're treated to several tantalising tongue-twisters from the likes of Eminem, Kanye West, Nas and Mos Def (now known as Yasiin), although some legendary MCs let themselves down by delivering feckless freestyles.

Rappers being rappers, they all claim credit for being the first to do this or that. No one really bothers to answer the question at the heart of this documentary. I wanted the history and truth about rap. Afrika Bambaataa and KRS-One – two from the Old School – deliver knowledgeable insights (slave-era camaraderie prefigured battle rapping, the turntable was turned into an instrument), but after a while the contributions become monotonous, irrelevant, uninteresting and surprisingly, given that these are purported wordsmiths, inarticulate. Ice-T becomes more interested in kicking back with his homies while they smoke unfeasibly big joints and rap along to classic hip-hop tracks.

Ice-T promises follow-ups to his directorial debut, for which I have a piece of advice: When cats like these end their sentences with 'Nah mean', i.e. 'Do you know what I mean?', for our sake, please find out what they mean.

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Unsubstantial and degrading or informally expressive?

[StevePulaski · 8/10 · 30 September 2012]

One of the many interesting things about Ice T's directorial debut, Something from Nothing: The Art of Rap, is the explanation rapper Lord Jamar offers us as to how rap music came about. He tells us that growing up in the ghetto, there were obvious budget cuts and the public schools were woefully underfunded to begin with. He tells us that since instruments such as pianos and drums were taken away, the only instruments kids found were their own mouths and a record player. I'm positive those who idolize rap are not even aware of this.

Something from Nothing: The Art of Rap explores just what its title proclaims; the art and craft of a genre so controversial and so openly slandered by critics, the media, and sometimes, its own audience. Rap is a lawless, anarchic breed of music, often objectifying women and promoting reckless behavior. Or has it let itself evolve that way? Has "swag," stupidity, and cockiness been traded for a subtle and unique panache? Nowadays, you'd be hard-pressed to find a rap song lacking the word "hoe" in any way, shape, or form. It seems the men Ice T (Tracy Marrow) interviews almost are ashamed at what the genre has become and faithfully spend their time recalling when the genre was more about being misunderstood and underestimated rather than boastfulness and amoral behavior.

The key to success in the rap world is originality, we're told by Big Daddy Kane. If there's anything these men seem to have pioneered it's a unique sound and a unique outlook on life. Interviews with Afrika Bambaataa, Dr. Dre, Eminem, Grandmaster Caz, Ice Cube, MC Lyte, and Snoop Dogg take place as they offer their views on the movement and also don't hesitate to give us highly-skilled freestyles.

Some of the interviews are informative and eye-opening - some have the unfortunate disadvantage of being concise and loose. The first hour of this documentary gives those who came for the insights exactly what they want. The second hour gives those who came for the music what they want. This is where Ice T's documentary begins to slightly fall from its throne. While there is a goal in mind, some of the interviews teeter on the edge of being rambling and rather irrelevant. There comes a point where the quality and the speed of the freestyles is favored over actual information inside the whole rap movement.

But there is a wonderful devotion to the subject matter, regardless on what is chosen to be the primary focus in different scenes. Ice T doesn't seem to many as the one you'd want to direct a documentary on hip-hop and rap, but after the film was over, I couldn't really see anyone else doing it and doing it to the extent of what he has personally accomplished. He has proved to be not only knowledgeable on the medium but completely capable to delivering all the components of a film determined to explore the broad concept of rap.

The documentary seems to run a little too long for this sort of subject matter. Perhaps if you're a die-hard fan of rap, you won't believe so. As an insightful look at the medium, it manages to wander into that sort of territory, but never does it gridlock itself to that area. It too manages to incorporate freestyles, jokes, old memories, and extensive interviews all in its runtime. On second thought, maybe it isn't too long at all.

Starring: Ice T, Afrika Bambaataa, Big Daddy Kane, Dr. Dre, Eminem, Grandmaster Caz, Ice Cube, Lord Jamar, MC Lyte, and Snoop Dogg. Directed by: Ice T and Andy Baybutt.

old timers talking about old times

[SnoopyStyle · 7/10 · 24 August 2013]

Ice-T does a documentary about rap. I wouldn't say that it's particularly focus. Mostly it's Ice-T chatting up other rappers about old times. It's not as enlightening as much as fascinating. There's some great stories. There's also some boring parts. If he could try to frame this as rap history, he could give this better structure. Although it does feel more free flowing like the rappers giving their own raps to this film. This is really just Ice-T traveling around, sitting and chatting with other rappers. Many people does a rap. They're not framing this as a definitive history of rap. Just people telling old stories.

Ice T Damn!

[psobizzy · 10/10 · 5 January 2013]

This movie was great! I love how Ice T showed love for all rappers. Every body was real in the own element. I can say it was one of the best movies of 2012. This is one I would go see again with someone that has not seen the movie. I would buy the DVD to keep for my kids,kids. This shows that rap is not always about money and cars. It used to mean something, used to tell a story and used to have feeling behind it. The big highlight showed that rappers are intelligent, articulate people. They are not just Thugs rapping about nothing. It takes true talent to rap off the top of your head and very few rapper can do that.

Great Job Ice T

The Art of Rap looks into the passion of the rhymes

[rgblakey · 7/10 · 22 September 2012]

Few styles of music have caused as much uproar as Hip Hop. Over the years there have been controversies, fights, and even death all in the name rap music. While not all is directly responsible, the feuds and storytelling in this music has led it to garner some attention that it may not always have wanted. Rap icon Ice-T steps into the director's chair for Art of Rap, his love letter to an industry that has defined a culture as well as numerous generations.

Art of Rap ignores the feuds and controversy and instead takes on the history and influence told through the new and old generation that have brought it to prominence. Featuring an all-star cast of some of the greatest to ever grab the mic including Run DMC, Treach, Snoop Dog, Eminem, B-Real, Dr. Dre, Doug E Fresh, Big Daddy Kane, Melle Mel and countless others tells the story of hip hop through the eyes and voice of those that help create it. This film not only gives the music the respect it deserves, it also gives voice to the young and old members of this unique world to showcase their beginnings as well as influences in the industry. This isn't just a long documentary story of rap, but instead a series of interviews with Ice-T the pioneers of the industry that shows the intelligence and passion that these individuals truly have for this art.

In a world of pop music and unoriginality, this film takes an inside look at hip hop while giving it the respect it deserves. You don't have to be a fan of the music to recognize the talent that built it. The innovators and creators struggled to create this industry and use their pain and talent to tell their stories like no other creating an industry that doesn't always get the respect it deserves, but rest assured will never go away. Whether you love rap or not, you should sit down and experience this film to let these icons in the music industry to have their voice.

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another one for the culture

[dutchbeats · 10/10 · 19 September 2012]

first, a few words for the rap geeks.... Kool Keith! his rap makes me laugh so fricken' hard every time i watch it holy crap. i also had to rewind Caz's verses a bunch as well as Mos Def's (wow!).

so many incredible exclusive verses and interviews from so many greats from the originators on up. the production value is also top notch and well balanced and contains candid performances by both Ice and his interviewees in a never ending buffet style from start to finish. so many flavors one after the other, which begs for more of the same. he also talks to a couple of producers you might have heard of named DJ Premier and Dr Dre (eeee!)

btw, i think rev run should change his name to rev Buddha lol(just a random thought).

SEQUELS PLEASE!

The Art of Rap

[politic1983 · 6/10 · 25 January 2014]

'I'm like the kill the police rapper Ice-T' - Richard Herring

Ah, rap music; ignorant, ignorant rap music. How I love ye. If only someone could make a documentary about it. Well, someone has: the kill the police rapper Ice-T in fact. Of course, many documentaries have been made about hip hop, largely focusing on more commercial names, many telling a similar dull story and aren't particularly that well made.

So, what does director Ice-T have for us? Well, 'The Art of Rap' is less a documentary and more a collection of interviews with some of the more famous and influential names to bless the mic, as well as all proving their place in the film by showing their skills minus any beats.

Ice-T's interviewing is essentially to ask three questions: why doesn't hip hop get the same respect as jazz and rhythm n blues?; what is your contribution to hip hop?; and what advice would you give to any new rappers? This essentially comes back with the answers: hip hop has a lot more attitude; and hip hop is something different to everybody – things pretty much anyone could have told you.

But this isn't a documentary designed to tell a story or come up with any great answers; it's a showcase for the purists of some of the best emcees busting rhymes. Unlike 'Scratch' which tells a story of the origins of DJing, little is mentioned about the development of rapping beyond the chronological order in which emcees are introduced, starting in the various boroughs of New York before moving across to LA. More focus is rightly given to East Coast emcees, particularly the likes of Grandmaster Caz getting as much screen time as bigger names such as Eminem and Kanye 'why am I here, really?' West.

'The Art of Rap' is not designed to educate, simply entertain and show some top-notch freestyling while sat in a cinema, which is a good thing. Ice-T is the best person to act as host for all this, having the charisma of a Hollywood star with the added bonus of being the O.G. rapper. It's interesting to hear the individual motivations, though there is little to really shatter the Earth beyond the closing thoughtful message from Snoop 'always be Doggy to me' Dogg, of all people.

Lame don't bother

[steve-myer · 3/10 · 19 December 2012]

What could have been very interesting turned out to be a wasted 2 hours. Ice T had access to so many great rappers, but he failed to do anything with it. He didn't tell a story, the history or give Rap any perspective it played in revolutionizing music or culture whatsoever. What he did do, was basically just shoot the breeze with his buddies on TV. And when he chose to do it on a busy New York street corner he got upset with anyone who stopped by to say hello... really? Ice T is barely an actor and for sure he's not a good interviewer. He ought to stick to what he excels at: Rap music; nothing more, nothing less.

Don't waste your time with this one.

In the words of the artists

[ashaw-01392 · 10/10 · 14 November 2018]

Loved this. Hear from the great men and women themselves. This is lyricism and message their best. Ice T is a gracious host.

This was a trip down memory lane and, although very short, touched me deeply

[tingiemang · 9/10 · 25 July 2012]

I saw this movie followed by a live feed with Q&A of ICE-T (and others) in London.

According to Ice-T this movie is just the appetizer and more will follow Well I for one can't wait to see more. Ice-T said he wanted to "give back" and I think he did with this movie. I certainly liked the stories told in the movie even If I do not fully agree with the distinction they make between Rhyme Sayers (rappers) and MC (entertainers), I personally think it really depends on the era.

I've now dusted off all my old records and am listening to stuff I had not listened to for years. Ice-T also made me remember why I fell in love with hip hop. It was the old stuff that was like magic to me.

It's not that I do not like modern hip-hop, I do, but in my mind I probably never granted the modern kind the same stature as the Old School.

The term Old School it self is tricky. There were always fierce disputes as to what could be considered Old School in the nineties and who was part of it. Now every one of those disputing is over 30 and called old. Look up Old School in wiki for more info.

On a personal note. I don't know if Old School is/was better but it certainly appealed to me at that point in my live. As I believe that what was on the radio back then was more diverse.

I doubt that political rap of PE, KRS-1, Arrested development, X-clan, or the early Paris would even stand a chance against today's more mainstream popular hip-hop of Jay -Z Kanye, Lil Wayne and M&M. But the former was necessary at the time. It was an era of so many styles, ego tripping, enjoyment (party rap) and education (a tribe called quest, De La soul, intelligent hoodlum) and who would have thought that Miami Bass pioneer Luther Cambell (Luke) would be the one to defend artist's constitutional right to use profanity and parody.

What I mean to say is that Old School laid a lot of bricks for newer artists to follow; you cannot have Jay-Z without Grandmaster Melle Mel.

Something this movie makes really clear.

Very helpful in my education!

[amandathe25 · 9/10 · 3 August 2019]

I've been turned on to rap/hip hop in my 40's. I find the history very important. I enjoy learning about the roots and evolution. Someone I trust that has a wide ranging knowledge base recommended this. REALLY appreciated it. It definitely widened my learning. This is definitely the era I dig most. Ice T did an excellent job at selecting who he interviewed. I love Rakim so just that very small scene was worth it. I think the title Something from Nothing: The Art of Rap sums it up for me. As I said I am a latecomer to the art of rap but it hands down no question an Art. As well as a very important part of history in this country. Very important.

(not) Some things from everything

[kosmasp · 8/10 · 11 November 2012]

Let me mention a few things at the top. The documentary by Ice-T does not have every MC in it. Not every rapper could have fit into the running time obviously, but you do wonder where someone like Jay-Z is? Maybe he'll be in the additional interviews that are on the Blu Ray/DVD as a special feature. Ice T did not react to a tweet I send him concerning that matter, but he gets so many tweets, he might have missed that one. He also concentrates his effort on MCs and not the producers or other artists involved in the making of a track.

As he said himself, his great motivation to do this, was his wife Coco. They were in the car and she bluntly told him, she doesn't care about the lyrics to a song, as long as the beat is nice. You can imagine Ice-T was pretty shocked by that statement, being an MC himself and working hard to make his own lyrics work.

The movie also does only involve American artists. If you're eager to know what French, Korean, British or other rap cultures are about, this will not satisfy you either. But again, there is only so much you can put in a movie. Having pointed out those things, the documentary is really light and shines the spot light on quite a few talents. If you're a fan of the music, you should know most of them (even if they're not active anymore).

You get a lot of freestyle and a lot of little stories thrown into the mix. Other reviewers have mentioned a book that is out there, which is supposed to be good. I haven't read it, so I have to take their words for it. I might get that too, as an addition to the movie

Best Documentary Yet !! # ICE-T nailed it man!! I thank you for making this. <3

[taniqofficial · 10/10 · 18 March 2020]

I just saw this today on 18-3-2020 on YT and couldn't stop myself for giving a review to this, So

First time I am doing this kinda thing, creating an account on imdB instead of sleeping on my couch cuz it's 5 AM and I am hella sleepy. First time saw a whole documantary I never liked em' Never preferred watchin 'em I haven't even had enough sleep from last nights threee It the love for HipHop call it hood which I was carrying in my blood didn't let me hit the cross whcih I guess I would have uh

Anyways let's cut to the chase, Enough of bullshit on crack n purple haze My last 2 hours spent were worth spending I was so amazed I know I'm 8 years late cuz my middle name is late but I believe in numbers I don't believe in dates, Better late than neva it was the perfect day for me to watch this I believe that watchin it tonight was in my fate. That's it for the first try on writing, Damn this docu motivates. !!

How Rappers Ply Their Trade

[view_and_review · 8/10 · 8 January 2022]

I've watched quite a few hip-hopumentaries now and each one is a little bit different. "Rhyme & Reason" came out in the late 90's featuring the best artists during the golden age of hip-hop. "Hip-Hop Evolution" is a more recent Netflix mini-series that is very educational. "Beats, Rhymes, & Life" focuses solely on A Tribe Called Quest. Ice-T's "Something from Nothing" is a bit of "The Show" and "Rhyme & Reason" with a focus on rapping. Ice-T goes from the East Coast to the West Coast with a stop in Detroit to interview some of the legends of hip-hop.

Interesting

[justdoesdesign · 23 April 2022]

There's hardly from the south, Bun B; but other than that, where's the south. You can go to all the states down south, Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Florida, Arkansas, and you got successful artist coming from there. I don't know anyone that's said to me, "oh yea lemme put on that new Rakim track." Bur I guarantee they remember alotta tracks from the Cash Money Records days in NYC. Jay Z's 'Big Pimpin' wasn't hot cause of Jay Z; it was hot cause UGK, and more specifically Pimp C (RIP). But yea, until they start recognizing what the South has done for Hip Hop/Rap I'm not trying to hear it.