Hey, That's No Way to Say Goodbye
- Episode aired Mar 7, 2023
- TV-14
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7.6/10
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The group try to stop the Akrida. - with the help of a surprise ally.The group try to stop the Akrida. - with the help of a surprise ally.The group try to stop the Akrida. - with the help of a surprise ally.
Lisha Wheeler
- Ticket Woman
- (as Lisha A Wheeler)
Richard Nash
- Garage Neighbors
- (uncredited)
Storyline
Did you know
- TriviaThe name Dean (Jenson Ackles) gives to John (Drake Rodger) and Mary (Meg Donnelly) is James Hetfield. Hetfield is the lead vocalist, rhythm guitarist, co-founder and a main songwriter of heavy metal band Metallica. Sam & Dean have a history of using musician's names as their alias throughout Supernatural.
- Quotes
Mary Campbell: [reading Dean's journal] He was very specific on this issue. Driver picks the music, shotgun shuts their cake hole.
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I've waited a bit. Had posted closer to air date and deleted. Because I was so very disappointed as a fan of the original Supernatural that it came out too rough.
The essence is true though: if a friend had told me they were doing a John/Mary fanfic, I'd hesitate out of lack of interest and also worry about abuse apologetics. Still, I would read that--for a FRIEND.
But then if they added (1) a time traveling (2) Dead character wiggling through from (3) an Alternate Universe? I'd have to tell them they'd gone too far and nope out.
Friends don't let friends get THAT ABSURD AMALGAMATION outside of the crackiest crack fic. Especially when a lot of that gets info-dumped in the last chapter, rather than woven throughout.
Lazy, lazy, lazy.
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Now I recognize that even then, it can fail as my cup of tea and I can just move along (even though as a fifteen season fan, that's incredibly hard because we're loyal)
What I will say before going, however, is that I feel lied to as a viewer.
First, we had interviews saying Sam and Cas would be included. Many of us watched on those direct quotes and promises.
That was bait to intentionally fool me into continuing. And as a consumer I don't deal well with smarmy salesmen who don't deliver.
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Second, the whole idea that this show stands alone and doesn't impact anyone if we don't want to see it? That premise is already proven wrong.
The mothership ending for Sam was poignant because he was duty bound to live life without Dean, even though he didn't want to. He had to break the cycle and be strong--a sort of jumping into the cage moment, only with a softer tone. (However, suburbia can be its own hades, we know)
The ending for Dean was awful because he died young, though heroically saving those kids.
However, the soft landing for him in the original show was that he only had a short drive before seeing Sam again (then presumably soon after, seeing Cas and the rest of the gang)
Now we have Dean up there fidgeting and making side trips which take him away from "Peace," as Jack himself points out in this last episode.
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Further, Supernatural was all about FREE WILL and charting your own course in spite of huge forces working against you.
Yet in the first moments after Dean gives Sam a big speech and duty binds his brother to break the cycle of meddling with the consequences of Free Will, what does he do?
Dean ascends to heaven and meddles.
He inserts himself in someone else's story line and intentionally alters it.
In addition, he shows he's again protecting Sam--which at least is in character--but by doing so he's undercutting the speech in the barn saying Sam could handle life on his own.
The "twists" of this story directly oppose Team Free Will and fifteen seasons of Dean yearning to have it for himself and everyone else.
It undercuts Sam's autonomy.
Shoot, it even lessens the big WINchester win, defeating Chuck (now that we find he may have onging plot bombs remaining)
---
Anyway, I could go through every reason I think The Winchesters itself is bad--the writing is weak, the acting inconsistent, the seventies not well represented at all.
And yet, since I was mainly watching out of interest as a Supernatural fan, the above are my greatest complaints really.
I'd have loved if it worked, even with the pair they chose to follow.
Some og names I adore are in that credit roll and I'll feel bad if they get cancelled (or, worse, thrown into discount streaming like a knock off)
But I don't like being lied to as a viewer and a waste of my time.
And I especially don't like when it damages the legacy show it's ripping off.
The essence is true though: if a friend had told me they were doing a John/Mary fanfic, I'd hesitate out of lack of interest and also worry about abuse apologetics. Still, I would read that--for a FRIEND.
But then if they added (1) a time traveling (2) Dead character wiggling through from (3) an Alternate Universe? I'd have to tell them they'd gone too far and nope out.
Friends don't let friends get THAT ABSURD AMALGAMATION outside of the crackiest crack fic. Especially when a lot of that gets info-dumped in the last chapter, rather than woven throughout.
Lazy, lazy, lazy.
---
Now I recognize that even then, it can fail as my cup of tea and I can just move along (even though as a fifteen season fan, that's incredibly hard because we're loyal)
What I will say before going, however, is that I feel lied to as a viewer.
First, we had interviews saying Sam and Cas would be included. Many of us watched on those direct quotes and promises.
That was bait to intentionally fool me into continuing. And as a consumer I don't deal well with smarmy salesmen who don't deliver.
---
Second, the whole idea that this show stands alone and doesn't impact anyone if we don't want to see it? That premise is already proven wrong.
The mothership ending for Sam was poignant because he was duty bound to live life without Dean, even though he didn't want to. He had to break the cycle and be strong--a sort of jumping into the cage moment, only with a softer tone. (However, suburbia can be its own hades, we know)
The ending for Dean was awful because he died young, though heroically saving those kids.
However, the soft landing for him in the original show was that he only had a short drive before seeing Sam again (then presumably soon after, seeing Cas and the rest of the gang)
Now we have Dean up there fidgeting and making side trips which take him away from "Peace," as Jack himself points out in this last episode.
---
Further, Supernatural was all about FREE WILL and charting your own course in spite of huge forces working against you.
Yet in the first moments after Dean gives Sam a big speech and duty binds his brother to break the cycle of meddling with the consequences of Free Will, what does he do?
Dean ascends to heaven and meddles.
He inserts himself in someone else's story line and intentionally alters it.
In addition, he shows he's again protecting Sam--which at least is in character--but by doing so he's undercutting the speech in the barn saying Sam could handle life on his own.
The "twists" of this story directly oppose Team Free Will and fifteen seasons of Dean yearning to have it for himself and everyone else.
It undercuts Sam's autonomy.
Shoot, it even lessens the big WINchester win, defeating Chuck (now that we find he may have onging plot bombs remaining)
---
Anyway, I could go through every reason I think The Winchesters itself is bad--the writing is weak, the acting inconsistent, the seventies not well represented at all.
And yet, since I was mainly watching out of interest as a Supernatural fan, the above are my greatest complaints really.
I'd have loved if it worked, even with the pair they chose to follow.
Some og names I adore are in that credit roll and I'll feel bad if they get cancelled (or, worse, thrown into discount streaming like a knock off)
But I don't like being lied to as a viewer and a waste of my time.
And I especially don't like when it damages the legacy show it's ripping off.
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