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8/10
Is it an episode of "Supernatural" or "Jack-and-Nick"?
faridamestek19 October 2018
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At the end of last episode Michael finally found the type of monster he could work with on creating a better world - whatever that is in his understanding - someone whose want he finds simple, pure and clean. I'm still not sure what exactly he is trying to accomplish and I'm afraid the writers don't have much of a clue either. Personally, I suspect that they never truly planned to have Michael possess Dean for very long and figured that they didn't really need to think it all the way through, details and all, because they knew that they would be dropping this particular storyline soon enough. In any case, this episode opens with a truly sinister scene: in an abandoned church, which, for all its ruin and decay, provides a beautiful background, Michael is experimenting on vampires. He mixes their blood with his grace - and .discards his failed experiments with chilling calm of scientific detachment. Again, he is disappointed. He is not an easy man to please. His movements are unhurried and precise and his expression is amused and morbidly expectant as he twirls his weapon of choice while selecting his next victim.

This time around the bunker seems to house only Bobby, Mary, Sam, Castiel, Jack and Nick. Sam finds Michael's bloody trail (the trail that Michael left entirely on purpose for him to find) and together with Bobby and Mary they take off. Bobby looks more like a bumbling old fool than anything else in this iteration with a serious case of foot-in-mouth disease. (Mary obviously finds it endearing, judging by the way she smiles playfully at him and claps him on the shoulder in the morgue later on.) Castiel reluctantly stays behind - he doesn't really have much of a choice. Jack is lost without his powers and Nick is a mess and they both need supervision. Something in Castiel's voice when he says this gives Sam a pause. He is once again playing devil's advocate when he tells Castiel with that piteous look on his face that it isn't Nick's fault and that Nick deserves a shot at rebuilding his life now that he isn't possessed anymore. I'm sure it will come back to bite him later. Oh. Wait. It already did. Jack doesn't object when they don't invite him to join them on their search and says that he wants to improve. However, by improving he means researching how long it takes archangel grace to replenish. Very productive.

Nick is seeing flashbacks of Lucifer's many killings while possessing him before Castiel brings him some nourishment and they have a heart-to-heart chat - once Castiel can finally make himself look him in the eye. After Castiel tells Nick that his family was murdered, which prompted him to say "yes" to Lucifer, Nick decides to find out who did it. He becomes a man possessed. No pun intended. And is it even considered pun in this case? However, his initial search proves fruitless and when Castiel tries to comfort him and puts a hand on his shoulder - he snaps - like in "he snaps his fingers just like Lucifer did when smiting someone". He says that he doesn't know why he did it when Castiel asks him about it. Or does he? There was a look about him that screamed Lucifer. So who is it? What is it? A dangerous side-effect after a prolong exposure to archangel's possession? Or is it Lucifer himself? Is he still lurking there somewhere, biding his time, waiting to be unleashed? Or is he merely playing us all and there is no Nick to speak of? This is all extremely troubling and confusing and I don't like it, especially considering the shocking events that took place at the end of the episode.

Jack continues to wallow in self-pity, repeating over and over again that without his grace he has nothing left. Castiel tells him about his own experience as a human and makes some very good points about patience and persistence (using Sam and Dean's example), past and future, and which one is more important in defining his purposefulness. "What did you have left?" asks Jack when Castiel tells him how hopeless and useless he felt after he lost his wings and grace. "I had Sam and Dean," replies Castiel simply. "But I had something else that was extremely helpful. I had myself. Just the basic me. As Dean would say without all the bells and whistles." I understand the importance of such talks and I think Castiel did a very good job there, but it all made it look like family drama rather than a sci-fi/fantasy show "Supernatural" is supposed to be. In the end, Castiel's pep talk results in Jack seeking his maternal grandparents.

Michael/Dean tuxedo/mirror scene is powerful and poignant and, on a very shallow note, so very, very pretty. I actually jumped when Michael smashed the glass. His voice is low, threatening and enthralling at the same time. He is once again on a prowl, looking for a new, a better monster to recruit - someone who can be improved - werewolves seem to fit the bill. Vampires, apparently, were just a test material. His cruel humour and cold amusement make him even more frightening than before. What is he going to do next? You just don't know. His smile is as sharp as glass and at any moment there will be that look in his eyes that will freeze your blood. He doesn't like playing games and gets bored when others do. His attitude is casually suave when dealing with women and carelessly calculated when dealing with men. His goal is becoming more defined as he seeks an audience with the leader of a werewolf pack. "Why be the hunted when you can be the hunter?" he asks him in the end. And isn't it an interesting choice of phrase, considering that he is possessing one?

But we still don't know what he's planning until he pays a visit to Lydia - the vampire who told Sam, Mary and Bobby where to find him. He knows that she was talking with them even though she tries to deny it. "Why do you think I dumped your brothers and sisters in plain sight?" he asks her. "Why do you think I let you escape? Rule number one: you can't have a trap without bait," he tells her. "That brings us to Rule number two, which says once the trap has been sprung, you don't need the bait anymore." But what is the actual trap? Is it the werewolf ambush or Dean who claims that Michael "just left"? What is going on? Is Dean the equivalent of the Trojan horse? I mean just earlier Michael showed no intentions of wishing to leave the building whatsoever, telling Dean that he owned him and that he should hang on and just enjoy the ride. Well, it was a pretty short ride if he truly left! But did he really? He didn't, by any chance, invite himself inside Nick to help him take his revenge? (I suppose he would consider wanting revenge pure enough.) I really hope not. I don't think that it would make much sense. Nick wasn't even Lucifer's true vessel. Surely Michael is the strongest when he is wearing Dean?

Jack meets his mother's parents. It is a touching scene but smacks too much of a soap opera. Castiel is not happy that Jack left the bunker. Jack tells Castiel, "I never knew my mother. I thought the next best thing might be for me to meet the only real family that I have left." Castiel is visibly hurt by his words. "That is not - " he all but growls but stops himself before he can say something he might regret. Instead, he controls his emotions and asks Jack if it helped. Jack then tells him about his visit and that he just couldn't tell them that she died. "I suppose there are worse ways to be human than to be kind," remarks Castiel.

Funnily enough, Jack's kindness disappears as abruptly as Nick snapped his fingers in true Lucifer fashion when Castiel tells him that Sam and the others might have found Michael. "So they're going to try and kill him?" Jack asks all business-like. "No," replies Castiel, frowning at him. "The plan is to subdue him using angel cuffs and spell work and to get Michael out of Dean." "And if he doesn't leave?" "Then they'll try to drive him out." "And if that doesn't work? Michael has to be stopped!" demands Jack, looking furious, showing no sympathy. "I know," says Castiel patiently, "and he will be, after Dean is - " "Dean doesn't matter," says Jack - and just like that all my sympathy and partiality for him is gone. It shouldn't have come as much of a shock, really, after he all but admitted that he doesn't consider them his family, but it still did. I'm sorry, Jack. But you're wrong. Dean matters. Castiel is shocked by Jack's "Dean has to die" tirade. "Do you think he'd want it any other way?" he throws at Castiel in the end. Well, of course not! We know that Dean would sacrifice himself if he had to. But here's the thing, Jack: it's not your call. Dean, Sam, Castiel, they all had their share of "I'm going to sacrifice myself" moments and it was up to their family - their real family - to try and find a way not to let that happen by whatever means possible.

So... at the end of this episode there are two burning questions that I want answers to: "Is it Dean or is it Michael?" and "Is it Nick or is it Lucifer?"
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9/10
Great story writing in this season!
skip-9875619 October 2018
Im liking the new direction this season is going....ive always loved the angelic mythos ,these types of stories are my favorite...no interest in monster of the week type stuff... The actor playing lucifer is fantastic, having an exceptional dynamic range to his acting..he can go from meek to menacing in a heartbeat! I think after this episode we all know what direction his character is heading! and its gonna be good! archangel micheals agenda is still unclear as to his ultimate end game... This is good writing and directing, and those who liked the angel theme are gonna love this season....i hope the show rolls with this new momentum and doesnt fall back into some of silly goofy story lines of the past...the angels and the heaven and hell dynamic are Always a winner in my book.
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9/10
Chilton Crane - wow
rich-fouts23 June 2019
This was a good episode with a very lovely and sensitive scene between Jack and Kelly's parents, thanks to a terrific performance by Chilton Crane. I kept thinking she would've been such a good choice for Mary Winchester. Wonderful talented actress.
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10/10
It's Bam! Zoom! to the moon!
sscialli19 October 2018
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The season started a little slow and confusing, but Jack is finally emerging to be able to be the bad nephilim that he was created to be prepared for when his grace returns, it will be an exciting time. Now Mark is trying to find his wife and son's killer is a nice sidebar to add flavor to an already intriguing character. Richard Speight Jr. picked up the reins to direct this episode, which is cool as there always some twisted dark humorous turn. Yeah I like him in front of the camera too as Gabriel. Keep it up gang! Jim Beaver is great coming back as alternate Bobby Singer! Mom is looking quite fetching and can't wait for Jody Mills and the girls come back on the scene!
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10/10
Very sensitive episode
hamzadak-8306819 October 2018
Altough the first episode was bad i see some improvment in the second one,keep up boys
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6/10
Trying to understand where this show is going
Kingslaay3 November 2018
This second episode offered little explanation and no real reasons as to why Dean (Michael) is living among the humans he despises. He later remarks to a vampire that he is impressed with him but doesn't articulate why exactly. The show is also holding on their recurring characters when they serve no real purpose. Bobby and Mark Pellegrino were brought back but to what end. The bunker has become so crowded as has this show. So many iconic shows have killed off their main characters and not lost a sweat such as Vikings or Game of Thrones. Yet Supernatural is having trouble dropping the dead weight for supporting characters.

I have never seen a show that has such a rich universe and been able to reinvent itself after the Apocalypse era was finished. The gates of hell, Mark of Cain story lines are examples of great writing and twists. The writers need to be changed or come up with a new direction and twist.
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6/10
Dichael was great and creepy but melodrama
shwetafabm6 August 2020
I liked seeing Dichael, he had a tv Hannibal vibe to him. Tho i have to say the suit, the wine drinking, the forced sex appeal didn't at all seem like the Michael we saw in aw. As for the other parts... Oh dear god what is wrong with the writers, the Jack scene with the grandparents is so unrealistic, when you can't even write such simple scenes what's going on. Nick being alive makes zero sense and i don't care for him. Neither do i care for alt Bobby and Mary. What do they contribute? Seems pointless now to care about how melodrama is taking over. The drama on the show was much much more subtle and not dragged. It wasn't sad and boring, it was dark and tragic and was more so focused on the brothers.
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6/10
Excessively sentimental and tonally discordant.
CubsandCulture18 October 2021
The Jack parts of the episode are cloying in that the writers force both the Cas conversation and the meeting with the grandparents. It is made worse in the episode because both the Michael parts and the Nick parts are quite dark.

The show in the later years really suffers from the mythos and relationship melodrama taking up too much space in each season. This grab bag of seriousness and emotion is a good example of this.
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2/10
Boring Lucifer Drama Continues
Johnny_West23 October 2018
Last season finale, I was overjoyed to see that Lucifer had finally been killed off. I hoped that the annoying Mark Pellegrino would finally be off the show. His character constantly manipulates everyone on this show, and makes them look stupid. How many times can they fall for his tricks? It ends up being lazy writing, to constantly use Lucifer to guide the direction of the series.

Usually when the angel burns out of the body, the body is killed off, but not this time.Mark Pellegrino is not Lucifer anymore, but he continues to drone on with his never-ending bull. In this episode, he continues to manipulate Castiel, and to make him feel guilty. I like the Castiel character almost as much as I like Bobby, but Castiel is the dumbest character in Supernatural.

Instead of just vaporizing Lucifer after they discover that the body did not die, Castiel tries to help Lucifer find his human roots. Not hard for any normal person to figure out how that goes. Hopefully there will be a miracle that finally kills off the Mark Pellegrino-Lucifer character permanently! The series needs to move forward, in a refreshing direction. The Lucifer character is a drag.
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4/10
Super boring.
darrenlennox20 October 2018
I started watching this show when it first started, and loved it. From around season 7 or 8, I feel is where it started to decline, both in writing and plot ideas, but I've persevered year in, year out. In my honest opinion, the show ran it's course by season 10 and should not have have made it as far as it has. It has become very stale and boring to watch, and I can not bare to watch anymore. Kudos to anyone who does, but for the sanity of all Supernatural fans, please stop watching and let this show end with dignity.
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1/10
Ugh.
notjim-5979127 July 2020
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I hate this season. I don't really care about "Mom" and I never have, honestly, but these characters who have been out-of-the-loop for YEARS just seemingly coming right back to badassery just totally shreds credibility. Suddenly Bobby is just like old Bobby even though he's not witnessed an ounce of civilization in YEARS. (Snooze.) I never bought Mom the bad-ass either especially considering that she'd given up hunting when she was 18 or so and appeared to have a much more regular life than most prior to the death of her parents. How many squads did you see ol' Sam and Dean on exactly? That's right. Dean wasn't even able to finish high school because he was devoted to hunting. There seems to be no kind of either/or until it's plot material for it to go one way or the other. But Mom crawls up out of her grave looking like she was busy training to be an Army Ranger in her afterlife. (Snooze) Jack is practically worthless now. Dean is a terrible villain -- I love Jensen but demon Dean sucked too and I hated that almost as much as I do Michean here. Jensen comes across as too much when he's trying to be the bad guy. I miss fourth season Cass because he had a lick of sense. Sam, Bobby, and Charlie bore the pants off of me and I could care less about Maggie whats-her-dead-face and can see why Lucifer enjoyed smashing her head. The whole thing with "Nick" just drags on and on and sucks too bad for better words. It's just horrible. By the end of this crap, I'm ready to chuck all of them into that coffin and lock them away forever MYSELF and this is one of my favorite shows. The icing on this crap cake comes later when there ends up being absolutely NO reason for them to have saved all those jack rabbits and dragged them into this world. It's just total garbage. I hate it. I couldn't rate it lower if I tried. Just UGH. This season? UGH. Burn it all to the ground. UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. If I could rate under ZERO, I would.
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Not Another Damn Idea!
TheAlShow28 October 2018
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Yep!

Cass has been around for 1000 years... funny, i dont remember him going back to germany when dean went back in time. exactly what has Cass done before meeting with the boys? Theatricle release, please.

Carry on wayward son.
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