Never have i ever suffered this much watching a show. Never. Probably because i would have quit watching but 12 seasons in... That's hard to do.
This episode had me entertained. Not much happens. The baby creates a rift in space and time, pretty cool. I didn't like the alternate reality story from Bobby, didn't make much sense especially angels, they are dicks but why would Bobby kill them if the war is between angels and demons. We saw Crowley do the bullets long ago, i think in S8. Anyway i didn't like the stupidity of the random spell that Crowley always knows but that's how the season has been, stupid, not saying its anything new to the genre or supernatural but usually takes a little more depth than that.
Now personally i love Crowley, love him, but he's deadweight for the show, nowhere to take the character so i am ok with him dying, from a story point of view his death even did mean something atleast but it's a bit annoying to me how forced it feels. It felt like a way to give him a redemption arc while getting rid of him.
As for Cas i know he comes back but honestly he's deadweight too for the plot but still he's fun sometimes and i really at this point can't imagine the show without him looming around.
Rowena's dead too but i think she comes back...
And Kelly is dead... Whatever.
And Mary... Whatever.
S12 review... Ugh 5/10 Jeez where do i start. Look i love this show, i appreciate the effort, i understand its been 13 years and it will never be S1-5, i understand the tone changing too by season... Like i can get behind most of it instead of whining like some about how the show should have ended in S5 but here i am about to whine about this season, the season not only had terrible plot it barely had anything redeemable about it. Worse it effected the previous seasons. Pretty much every episode had something awful about it in terms of either ignoring a power Castiel can do, making stuff up to advance the plot that didn't happen in earlier seasons, giving us multiple Cain 2.0s, the long and boring back and forth of Lucifer, plain stupidity.
1. Tone- the showrunner changed which is why i suppose there was a shift in tone but also due to the plot i suppose. More action heavy, less serious, less dark, a lot of drama, comedy was there but just one crazy or comedic episode. Also i felt Sam had more of a presence, it still fixated more on Dean but seemed like Sam's past and badassery was getting attention. Something the Carver era really ignored. I get Dean had storylines for most of S8-11 but that didn't mean Sam could not be doing somw of the badassness. My problem was that his character was so boring during that time. At this point take it for what it is, it will never be dark as S1-7 were at this point its become more of a comedy action mystery soap drama procedural with bad plot. The situation of this season feels a bit like S6 to me. After S1-5 people were really after S6 calling it horrible because they felt that the show should have ended at S5, i really like S6 especially because it does the tone absolute justice. So maybe my problem here is also similar, maybe i am just struggling to care and see the point of the existence of this season when S11 could have wrapped the show beautifully, not that i loved S11 but it actually managed to be a decent end if they killed Lucifer, fit Crowley's offer in the end of S12 and made it happen, connected Eileen and Sam so he could finally have some happiness and didn't do the Mary thing or bmol. All i could think was why is anything happening and why don't i care... The shift in tone was also pretty drastic, it did not feel like the same show. Also the fact that the conflict of monsters felt similar, the monster torture, the working for someone who wants monsters but are corrupt.
2. Plot This season suffered from it not being too personal for Sam and Dean, i know i know Mom comes back and Sam gets tortured from the jump but its still missing that personal feel to it. It wasn't about them per se. It was about the bmol trying to get rid of american hunters and Satan being bored and impregnating someone and Mary coming back. At its plot core we can say this was about sticking to a personal code and respecting individuals, even monsters and it was about forgiveness, understanding and giving space to family. Weak as hell.
3. Plot holes galore Oh jesus 1. Ep2 why does that lady not just blast Cas away? Why does Sam not make sure she is dead? How does one person not beat Dean and Cass? So that Mary could make the kill. 2. Sam's psychicness, this is on the show for reminding me of this mess in ep4, which is a great ep btw. It just makes my head hurt. Why does Sam have no powers? Maybe its being in hell that changed him....What's with the Deal with Mary which was made to give Azazel permission (idek) for her secondborn? Was that an actual thing? Did the mom or dad of the other family make a deal? Did the others? If that wasn't a requirement then how is this on Mary? 3. Ep8- oh really huh the President won't remember being possessed...ofcourse cuz if he does then Dean and Sam don't get taken. S14 we see that's untrue. I could actually buy this because we have never seen an archangel possession besides Sam's where Lucifer actually allowed Sam consciousness. 4. Ep9- This just pissed me off. Show are you telling me that Dean can call for Billy but he can't pray to Castiel. Is this show telling me that Castiel is now unable to hear prayers. Mad. I am mad. 5. Ep 12- really really good ep BUT BUT BUT really Cain 2.0s and multiple at that. Look i bought the whole Cain thing, it was buyable, but this no, and there are multiple? Please this is just nonsense and the two princes we saw weren't in anyway special. 6. Ep21- Lucifer can't see the obvious fact that Crowley isn't dead even though he doesn't light up, Ketch lets them live. Go to unsafe bunker. 7. Ep22- again go to unsafe bunker, lady whatever thinks bmol wants to kill her for no reason when it was clearly only Ketch. 8. The entire Lucifer now having control of Crowley and the security whatever it was so dumb i can't even remember what in the world that was. 9. Bmol's entire motivations 10. Crowley knew where a powerful weapon that could kill Lucifer was and did not even try to make a play for it with the Winchesters when he was so hell bent on killing Lucifer in S11? Also him destroying the weapon to help Cas is doubtful. 11. Lucifer's vessel. The whole Sam being important thing retconned.
4. Crowley Love him but he hasn't been the gold spitting badass he was in a long time. The back and forth with Lucifer just got old. As a character i suppose he had some growth and a bit of a redemption arch. Personally i am ok with that tho i am a but sick of how the bad guys keep turning good like Meg, Metatron, Amara. We saw Crowley lose his son and his mother did it for revenge. We can see how lonely, bored and unfulfilled he feels. He even saves Cass by breaking probably the best weapon they have ever seen, i didn't think it was very in character but i won't believe it is ooc because i can buy that Crowley cares for Cass i suppose. But then when the bmol tells him they'll be going after the Winchesters he does not warn them...So he'll save Cas by forgoing a major weapon but won't warn the brothers? Anyway in the end he kills himself to lock Lucifer because of the spell...ok... I think we can see a build up of him being tired, broken and also he knows he won't survive Lucifer anyway. But the spell thing is so lame, like how could he possibly know and the whole set up just feels forced for us to see him make a sacrifice. I did love how his offer to close hell, i would have loved to see that happen. How do i feel about this... Hmm personally i am burnt out, if this happened last season i might have cared more, but the dragging of the character has left me mostly unaffected and also as much as i love him i have no problem seeing evil characters die. As for how he became king... considering all of Lucifer loyalists were after him why was he going around making representations on behalf of hell
5. Lucifer Dear Lord...the president potrayal was the worst Lucifer ever. The whole rockstar thing was pointless. So he's having an identity crisis and feels abandoned and decides to have a child... Ok i suppose i just don't care for the screen time it got. Then he gets trapped and the whole stretched out back and forth happens. He escapes and i don't care because i he did it last season, because he isn't scary anymore.
Fave ep- lily sunder, american nightmare, regarding dean, stuck in the middle, the raid
S12 review... Ugh 5/10 Jeez where do i start. Look i love this show, i appreciate the effort, i understand its been 13 years and it will never be S1-5, i understand the tone changing too by season... Like i can get behind most of it instead of whining like some about how the show should have ended in S5 but here i am about to whine about this season, the season not only had terrible plot it barely had anything redeemable about it. Worse it effected the previous seasons. Pretty much every episode had something awful about it in terms of either ignoring a power Castiel can do, making stuff up to advance the plot that didn't happen in earlier seasons, giving us multiple Cain 2.0s, the long and boring back and forth of Lucifer, plain stupidity.
1. Tone- the showrunner changed which is why i suppose there was a shift in tone but also due to the plot i suppose. More action heavy, less serious, less dark, a lot of drama, comedy was there but just one crazy or comedic episode. Also i felt Sam had more of a presence, it still fixated more on Dean but seemed like Sam's past and badassery was getting attention. Something the Carver era really ignored. I get Dean had storylines for most of S8-11 but that didn't mean Sam could not be doing somw of the badassness. My problem was that his character was so boring during that time. At this point take it for what it is, it will never be dark as S1-7 were at this point its become more of a comedy action mystery soap drama procedural with bad plot. The situation of this season feels a bit like S6 to me. After S1-5 people were really after S6 calling it horrible because they felt that the show should have ended at S5, i really like S6 especially because it does the tone absolute justice. So maybe my problem here is also similar, maybe i am just struggling to care and see the point of the existence of this season when S11 could have wrapped the show beautifully, not that i loved S11 but it actually managed to be a decent end if they killed Lucifer, fit Crowley's offer in the end of S12 and made it happen, connected Eileen and Sam so he could finally have some happiness and didn't do the Mary thing or bmol. All i could think was why is anything happening and why don't i care... The shift in tone was also pretty drastic, it did not feel like the same show. Also the fact that the conflict of monsters felt similar, the monster torture, the working for someone who wants monsters but are corrupt.
2. Plot This season suffered from it not being too personal for Sam and Dean, i know i know Mom comes back and Sam gets tortured from the jump but its still missing that personal feel to it. It wasn't about them per se. It was about the bmol trying to get rid of american hunters and Satan being bored and impregnating someone and Mary coming back. At its plot core we can say this was about sticking to a personal code and respecting individuals, even monsters and it was about forgiveness, understanding and giving space to family. Weak as hell.
3. Plot holes galore Oh jesus 1. Ep2 why does that lady not just blast Cas away? Why does Sam not make sure she is dead? How does one person not beat Dean and Cass? So that Mary could make the kill. 2. Sam's psychicness, this is on the show for reminding me of this mess in ep4, which is a great ep btw. It just makes my head hurt. Why does Sam have no powers? Maybe its being in hell that changed him....What's with the Deal with Mary which was made to give Azazel permission (idek) for her secondborn? Was that an actual thing? Did the mom or dad of the other family make a deal? Did the others? If that wasn't a requirement then how is this on Mary? 3. Ep8- oh really huh the President won't remember being possessed...ofcourse cuz if he does then Dean and Sam don't get taken. S14 we see that's untrue. I could actually buy this because we have never seen an archangel possession besides Sam's where Lucifer actually allowed Sam consciousness. 4. Ep9- This just pissed me off. Show are you telling me that Dean can call for Billy but he can't pray to Castiel. Is this show telling me that Castiel is now unable to hear prayers. Mad. I am mad. 5. Ep 12- really really good ep BUT BUT BUT really Cain 2.0s and multiple at that. Look i bought the whole Cain thing, it was buyable, but this no, and there are multiple? Please this is just nonsense and the two princes we saw weren't in anyway special. 6. Ep21- Lucifer can't see the obvious fact that Crowley isn't dead even though he doesn't light up, Ketch lets them live. Go to unsafe bunker. 7. Ep22- again go to unsafe bunker, lady whatever thinks bmol wants to kill her for no reason when it was clearly only Ketch. 8. The entire Lucifer now having control of Crowley and the security whatever it was so dumb i can't even remember what in the world that was. 9. Bmol's entire motivations 10. Crowley knew where a powerful weapon that could kill Lucifer was and did not even try to make a play for it with the Winchesters when he was so hell bent on killing Lucifer in S11? Also him destroying the weapon to help Cas is doubtful. 11. Lucifer's vessel. The whole Sam being important thing retconned.
4. Crowley Love him but he hasn't been the gold spitting badass he was in a long time. The back and forth with Lucifer just got old. As a character i suppose he had some growth and a bit of a redemption arch. Personally i am ok with that tho i am a but sick of how the bad guys keep turning good like Meg, Metatron, Amara. We saw Crowley lose his son and his mother did it for revenge. We can see how lonely, bored and unfulfilled he feels. He even saves Cass by breaking probably the best weapon they have ever seen, i didn't think it was very in character but i won't believe it is ooc because i can buy that Crowley cares for Cass i suppose. But then when the bmol tells him they'll be going after the Winchesters he does not warn them...So he'll save Cas by forgoing a major weapon but won't warn the brothers? Anyway in the end he kills himself to lock Lucifer because of the spell...ok... I think we can see a build up of him being tired, broken and also he knows he won't survive Lucifer anyway. But the spell thing is so lame, like how could he possibly know and the whole set up just feels forced for us to see him make a sacrifice. I did love how his offer to close hell, i would have loved to see that happen. How do i feel about this... Hmm personally i am burnt out, if this happened last season i might have cared more, but the dragging of the character has left me mostly unaffected and also as much as i love him i have no problem seeing evil characters die. As for how he became king... considering all of Lucifer loyalists were after him why was he going around making representations on behalf of hell
5. Lucifer Dear Lord...the president potrayal was the worst Lucifer ever. The whole rockstar thing was pointless. So he's having an identity crisis and feels abandoned and decides to have a child... Ok i suppose i just don't care for the screen time it got. Then he gets trapped and the whole stretched out back and forth happens. He escapes and i don't care because i he did it last season, because he isn't scary anymore.
Fave ep- lily sunder, american nightmare, regarding dean, stuck in the middle, the raid