It's clear that this is trying to obsolve responsibility from India and Catherine Oxenberg. It's so obvious watching this that it is NOT actually interviews with India and Catherine. All of their dialog is horrendously acted scripts. It's gross actually. You definitely see the truth of the Nxivm cult to some extent but this is fake acting and trying to scream innocence to India and her mother and it's uncomfortable to watch. India seems like a sociopath