My problem with this show... and a lot of shows like this... is the ridiculous dismissal of logic in favour of the "we're friends... we can do anything together" nonsense.
So Castiel is basically given 24hrs to submit to Raphael of Raphael will kill him... reopen the cage and restart the apocalypse... rendering all the work of the Winchesters pointless and killing everyone on the planet.
Crowley offers a solution... granted a one with drawbacks... but it gets Castiel the power he needs to fight off Raphael and avoid the apocalypse.
Unfortunately, he needs more power to finish the war that he started and the hunt for souls with Crowley must continue. People get hurt, lots of people in fact. But still, nowhere near the entire population of the earth. So if we are being logical here... Castiel's choice was still the correct one.
When Dean finds out we get the usual moral highground stupidity. If you boil down what Dean is saying he basically thinks the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many. Whining that he shouldn't have accepted Crowley's deal and instead asked him for help.
Right... and Dean would have done what exactly? How would Dean get Castiel 50,000 souls worth of power in 24hrs?
Answer... he wouldn't. Result... Cas would have died... apocalypse restarted... whole world destoyed.
Yet the show clearly thinks you should agree with Dean. It is just like when Dean was whining to soulless Sam about letting Cas painfully examine a young boy in an earlier episode in order to allow them to track down the angel that had posession of the boy's soul. Dean whined about how it was wrong to put the boy through the pain & how horrid it was of Sam not to back him up. Umm... no. It was an unpleasant necessity. Yes the boy went through brief pain. But as a result they were able to get the deal the boy made abolished and thus save his eternal soul.
I know a lot of people like to think that the standpoint of "the ends justify the means" is always a morally wrong standpoint. But they are incorrect. Letting billions die to avoid hurting the feelings of one is clearly the morally wrong option. Yet this show seems to think that it isn't.
I just can't get past the utter dismissal of logic that this episode has. Then again... that's tv shows like this in general for you really.
So Castiel is basically given 24hrs to submit to Raphael of Raphael will kill him... reopen the cage and restart the apocalypse... rendering all the work of the Winchesters pointless and killing everyone on the planet.
Crowley offers a solution... granted a one with drawbacks... but it gets Castiel the power he needs to fight off Raphael and avoid the apocalypse.
Unfortunately, he needs more power to finish the war that he started and the hunt for souls with Crowley must continue. People get hurt, lots of people in fact. But still, nowhere near the entire population of the earth. So if we are being logical here... Castiel's choice was still the correct one.
When Dean finds out we get the usual moral highground stupidity. If you boil down what Dean is saying he basically thinks the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many. Whining that he shouldn't have accepted Crowley's deal and instead asked him for help.
Right... and Dean would have done what exactly? How would Dean get Castiel 50,000 souls worth of power in 24hrs?
Answer... he wouldn't. Result... Cas would have died... apocalypse restarted... whole world destoyed.
Yet the show clearly thinks you should agree with Dean. It is just like when Dean was whining to soulless Sam about letting Cas painfully examine a young boy in an earlier episode in order to allow them to track down the angel that had posession of the boy's soul. Dean whined about how it was wrong to put the boy through the pain & how horrid it was of Sam not to back him up. Umm... no. It was an unpleasant necessity. Yes the boy went through brief pain. But as a result they were able to get the deal the boy made abolished and thus save his eternal soul.
I know a lot of people like to think that the standpoint of "the ends justify the means" is always a morally wrong standpoint. But they are incorrect. Letting billions die to avoid hurting the feelings of one is clearly the morally wrong option. Yet this show seems to think that it isn't.
I just can't get past the utter dismissal of logic that this episode has. Then again... that's tv shows like this in general for you really.